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Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:16:00 - [1] - Quote I will be the first person to log onto a "Trammel" Eve. If I understood your OP correctly, Trammel was more populated than the original. So players DIDN'T WANT RISK.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.02.15 04:04:00 - [2] - Quote Crumplecorn wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will be the first person to log onto a "Trammel" Eve. If I understood your OP correctly, Trammel was more populated than the original. So players DIDN'T WANT RISK. Well obviously some did because some of them left UO and invented a little thing called EVE Online. And now you are saying they themselves should do exactly the same thing to EVE? UO wasn't enough? The countless mindless MMORPGs that have followed aren't enough? EVE has to be dragged down too? This is the fundamental problem with you 'carebear types' - you want every game to suit you. Whereas the 'ganker types' want only one game for themselves - the game that was originally intended for them. Dear God, the sheer amount of irony in this post is baffling! So I'm not allowed to want the game to suit me, but it's perfectly fine to want the game to suit you? Lick my nuts.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:28:00 - [3] - Quote Fighting for a risk-free high sec is a worthy cause, carebears! All the hardcore neckbeards will have their lowsec and nullsec, and if we don't want part of that risk, well, that's not our problem. Maybe if they stop blueing each other, they'd get the fights they're looking for. FIGHTING FOR A THEMEPARK EVE!
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.02.15 15:50:00 - [4] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Fighting for a risk-free high sec is a worthy cause, carebears! All the hardcore neckbeards will have their lowsec and nullsec, and if we don't want part of that risk, well, that's not our problem. Maybe if they stop blueing each other, they'd get the fights they're looking for. FIGHTING FOR A THEMEPARK EVE! ^^ Hopeless trolling. No, not trolling. There is no other decent themepark sci fi MMO out there, so carebears have made their home in EVE and are trying their best to make it the way they want.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.02.15 17:54:00 - [5] - Quote Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Maybe if they stop blueing each other, they'd get the fights they're looking for. < Least blues of any sovholding alliance in 0.0 now what? Now what? That's easy. Stop whining and demanding that highseccers play differently.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.02.15 18:06:00 - [6] - Quote Vin King wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Now what? That's easy. Stop whining and demanding that the ship you're not even playing is still there when you bother to come back to the game. Hurr durr I like putting words in other players' mouths. FTFY
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.02.15 18:14:00 - [7] - Quote Vin King wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Vin King wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Now what? That's easy. Stop whining and demanding that the ship you're not even playing is still there when you bother to come back to the game. Hurr durr I like putting words in other players' mouths. FTFY I see you accurately quoted yourself in that. Thanks! No problem. Now kindly taste my anus.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.02.15 18:19:00 - [8] - Quote Nope. I enjoy shoving the aggressiveness and bullying back at the players it originated from.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2013.02.15 19:24:00 - [9] - Quote The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 14:54:00 - [10] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: TheGunslinger42 wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: The fact of the matter is that catering to carebears is more profitable. If CCP wants more money, they'll stop the carebear hate, or at least stop us from getting bullied. Got any proof of that, mate? Look at all the other MMOs that cater to carebears and follow the wow-trend: They're wastelands after the initial bubble bursts. SWTOR had to go Free to Play after a ridiculously short time it was so abysmal, and that was one of the new MMOs that had the best chance at succeeding (franchise recognition, the team behind it, the massive resources available to them, etc) Conversely, we have ten straight years of evidence suggesting that catering to the be-an-*******-in-a-sandbox crowd works just fine, and the occasional blip along the way have been a result of NOT focusing on things for that crowd (eg incarna) Lord whatever is trolling. Please ignore him. I love how you have spent so much time online that you can prove 100% unequivocally what trolling is. I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 17:19:00 - [11] - Quote Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now. And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise. What is it that you want to see in Eve? Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden. You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec. Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:27:00 - [12] - Quote TheGunslinger42 wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I am fighting to change Eve, just like James is, but I am fighting so it's more accessible to more people, rather than douche central like it is now. And how exactly do you think Eve could be modified to prevent one segment of the player base from "bullying" another while still allowing for open interaction between players? I've read a few of your posts and I don't see what it is that you want. At first I thought you were a lowsec dweller, the last few posts have finally convinced me otherwise. What is it that you want to see in Eve? Easy. I want Eve to lure in all kinds of players. Casuals, hardcores, PVE, PVP, Carebears, everyone. A truly diverse New Eden. You want to be safe? And not forced to interact with others? Highsec. Want to dip your toes into piracy and PVP? Lowsec You want to have a player-created and controlled area where anything can happen? Nullsec, where the players are left to their machinations. But also don't go whining to CCP about people comfortable in highsec when the null dwellers have become as risk-averse as you perceive highseccers to be because you've blued everyone. That is what the New Order, and much of nullsec is guilty of, and they're just blaming highsec because we don't appreciate griefing and nonconsensual PVP. This idea of being able to "not interact with others" is stupid and cannot be accomplished within EVE. It's one giant shard shared by everyone, one big economy shared by everyone, etc. You cannot opt out of interaction with people unless you completely redesign the game and take away some of the core defining aspects (that are clearly why it's survived and grown for ten straight years, while the countless wow-lite mmos have the lifespan of a mayfly) It truly astonishes me that people miss the entire point of EVE online and continue to play it for so long, and that they think these kinds of suggestions would be improvements to the game ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 19:49:00 - [13] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you. Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:06:00 - [14] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: ahem SANDBOX. Meaning multiple styles of play, including solo ones. Sandbox means that you can try and play solo, it doesn't mean we have to let you. Indeed. And being forced to interact is something that needs to change. ^^^ yet more silly trolling. Please stop. I'm perfectly allowed to post my opinions. There are quite a lot of views on what Eve should be.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:16:00 - [15] - Quote The more users think I'm trolling, the more cemented my views of the forum portion of the playerbase becomes.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:24:00 - [16] - Quote In Eve, the players are the content. And groups of players have different views of what Eve is. There is no single definition of what this game is.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:31:00 - [17] - Quote I disagree. I think there should be areas of New Eden where you can play your way without prowling dicks looking for more tears for a substandard blog.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:39:00 - [18] - Quote I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 20:48:00 - [19] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault. Then do it. Gather some friends, go and carve yourself a slice of space, don't expect others to let you do without a fight though, they have already fought for it, why should they let you take it away from them without a fight. Alternatively find an empty wormhole, it's about as close to nullsec as you'll find outside of nullsec. That's been my primary method of searching thus far, and no luck so far. And that's even more thrilling because you never know if it's empty or not.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 21:05:00 - [20] - Quote Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault. The null seccers don't actually ask for much, they want more access to indy slots is about the only thing I hear them ask for. They do hate change for the sake of change and players who have never really been out of highsec asking for game changes that will make it easier to get into null. But honestly null is not in a "hole" and they are not all blue to one another. As for mining mercoxit; hell yeah, thats an awesome goal. Learn evasion, learn to mine in lowsec, contact the CVA or go exploring the outer ring and have at it. Go in with some other guys and buy an ORCA sneak it into null, and mine fill it up. That would be a blast. Before I even consider moving anything to mine it, first I have to find it, which is proving a challenge. I was under the impression that no matter where you are; null, WH, wherever, Merc has to be scanned down, yes?
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:06:00 - [21] - Quote Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Before I even consider moving anything to mine it, first I have to find it, which is proving a challenge. I was under the impression that no matter where you are; null, WH, wherever, Merc has to be scanned down, yes? Oh I have no idea. So hop in a covops and go find some. Have you looked on the Evelopedia aout it? Yes, I have researched it to varying degrees. Only available in null and wormholes, and still, needs to be scanned down. And even then it's quite rare.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:20:00 - [22] - Quote Nothing much. Just a brainwashed convert. People like those are the reason carebear is a derogatory term in this community. Pathetic.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 22:54:00 - [23] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lord Ovuld Feish wrote: I will give the New Order this; Eve is quite imbalanced at the moment. But they are going about rebalancing it the wrong way. The nullsec players have dug themselves into this pit they're in, and they're blaming EVERYONE but themselves. I want to go to null. I want to lay eyes and lasers upon that ever-elusive Mercoxit. And I know every time I go searching, I'm putting a round in the chamber and giving it a spin. But that's NOT highsec's fault. The null seccers don't actually ask for much, they want more access to indy slots is about the only thing I hear them ask for. They do hate change for the sake of change and players who have never really been out of highsec asking for game changes that will make it easier to get into null. But honestly null is not in a "hole" and they are not all blue to one another. As for mining mercoxit; hell yeah, thats an awesome goal. Learn evasion, learn to mine in lowsec, contact the CVA or go exploring the outer ring and have at it. Go in with some other guys and buy an ORCA sneak it into null, and mine fill it up. That would be a blast. Before I even consider moving anything to mine it, first I have to find it, which is proving a challenge. I was under the impression that no matter where you are; null, WH, wherever, Merc has to be scanned down, yes? Mercoxit is a belt ore eg: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/ZDYA-G Not in any null system I've been in. But I'm keeping up the search as best I can. My supply of cov op frigs are low at the moment.
Lord Ovuld Feish Hedion University Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2013.02.16 23:57:00 - [24] - Quote Large Collidable Object wrote: CCP will always support highsec botters who pretend to be people with a lot of accounts mining in highsec because it makes their game appear populated. Pretty much. Eve is the only game I've seen that actively advertises alternate accounts.